2013 images Above: the Egertons sign photographed
from Tower Ramparts,
alongside The Halberd Inn (which features further down this page), now
called P.J. McGinty's & Sons. This sign is
on the back wall
of the former Yates' public
house, and is one of the most familiar (and redundant) signs to
Ipswichians.
[UPDATE 2009: remarkably, this
public house is now called The Robert Ransome
in
memory of one of the town's most famous industrialists, the building,
once housing Barnes Furnishing,
which moved here from Upper Orwell Street, has been refurbished and is
owned by
Wetherspoons as is the nearby Cricketers.]
EGERTONS
(IPSWICH) LTD BP 100 YDS
This
somewhat
enigmatic sign promises something 100 yards away on Crown Street,
without saying quite
where.
Presumably Egertons (Ipswich) Ltd, their sign sponsored by British
Petroleum,
knew that passers-by would find them if they'd got that far. The
premises
referred to once stood on the site further down Crown Street on the
right,
past The Cricketers Hotel (once The Town House, a 'Tolly Folly'
designed by architect John Shewell Corder (see also his work on Scarborow), and
built
by Marriott's in the 19th century to emulate the
architectural style of Helmingham Hall, fact fans!) on the
site of the current Crown Pools.
The above 1962 photograph shows the extensive Egerton's showrooms
and works on the
right of Crown Street, Electric House
straight ahead with the chimney and corsetry works of Footman Pretty
behind, with open car parking occupying the present site of Tower
Ramparts bus station.
[UPDATE 15.3.2015: "I refer to
the photographs on your page in which you show Tower Ramparts car park
with Electric House and a Large Building on the right hand side as
being Mann Egerton. This is incorrect; the building is Egertons Ipswich
Ltd. Which was built, I believe, by my Grandfather, Justin Reginald
Egerton (Reggie). My Father, Justin C. Egerton, was a director until
his death. My Grandfather sold the business to the Lex Group in the
early 60s, just before my father's death. Regards, Charles W. Egerton."
Many thanks to Charles for pointing
out this loose use of company language ("Egertons" / "Mann Egertons" –
now corrected; it is always good to hear from a descendant of one of
the well-known Ipswich names. See also the Shortis shop sign in Woodbridge Road.]
[UPDATE 21.12.2013: John
Bulow-Osborne writes: "I arrived just too late to snap Egertons Garage
because, as you will note, the lettering had already been removed by
the demolition contractors. Which fact may render the photos unsuitable
for your purposes.
To judge from the vehicles to be seen, (all but one is British!), I
would put the date around the late seventies. You will be aware that a
market occupied the site for some time prior to the construction of the
Crown Pools." Thanks to John for
these excellent images of a building which radically altered the
townscape here from that we know today.] Courtesy
John Bulow-Osborne
The lettering removed from the long blue strip above first floor level
reads:
'[TRU]CK SERVICE
RECEPTION ... BEDFORD TRUCKS ... EGERTONS SERVICE LTD. ...
VAUXHALL CARS ... CAR SERVICE RECEPTION'
Above right: 'BP SERVICE' is still visible on the
angled corner, next to building's neighbour: the 'Tolly Folly' which
bears its original name 'The Cricketers Hotel' (soon to be renamed 'The
Town House' once Egertons was demolished. What strikes us is the scale
of this three-storey, cream-white structure. The build up to the
pavement would only emphasize the dramatic gap left in the townscape
once it was demolished.
See also our Lloyds Avenue page for a
different view of the big Mann Egerton works on Crown Street.
[UPDATE 2.10.2021: Following
one of Borin's talks at The Felixstowe Society, Peter Finbow got in
touch to say that, having been born and brought up in Ipswich, he has a
recollection that the 'Egertons - BP – 100yds' sign shown above
referred specifically to a small petrol filling station within the
large Egerton's works in Crown Street. The close-up of the above
photograph shows The Cricketers public house on the right with William
Street (now a pedestrian walkway to a car park) running off Crown
Street. On the opposite corner is the easternmost part of Egerton's
works with a tight drive-through behind the pillars at ground level. He
believes that this small petrol outlet was the destination referred to
as 'BP – 100yds' on the rear of the Yates building, although it was
accross the street for drivers heading west on Crown Street. The sign
above the 45-degree section reads 'BP SERVICE'; also the pillar/support
to the right of the lamp-post carries vertical marks below the
blue-painted board. The above rather grainy monochrome photograph from
1962 clearly shows the projecting, illuminated 'BP' sign in this
position.
Thanks to Peter for this
memory; he used to ride past this area as a Post Office telegram
motorcycle delivery boy – younger readers might need to look up the
word 'telegram'. Incidentally, while the building awaits destruction,
there are still two or three cars parked within and a figure or two,
plus the 'No parking' sign on the ground at the exit to the right.]
A similar deco Egertons structure occupied the triangular site at the
junction of St Margaret's Street and Woodbridge Road (Major's
Corner – see Street name derivations) until the 1980s, with a ramp for
vehicles from Woodbridge Road running up to the upper level, parts
department, service centre and showrooms. Situated on the north side of
Major’s Corner was Botwood’s Garage, built in 1923, on the site of
Major’s House and the adjacent Admiral’s Head pub. Botwood’s were
carriage builders during the second half of the 19th Century and
amalgamated with Mann Egerton in 1910. The Majors Corner building was
partially
demolished to make way for the now-redundant Odeon
Cinema (1991-2005); the
remainder
facing Woodbridge Road had been used as a furniture shop and car
dealership
but is now demolished to make more parking space between the cinema and
the Regent. They also traded in
agricultural machinery from Princes
Street, near the Greyfriars roundabout and had a lawnmower dealership
on
one of the newer industrial estates. However, the 'Motor Works'
lettering
(bottom
of this page) confirmed that the company once occupied the
old Assembly Rooms in Northgate
Street.
2012 images
The view is of the
top of Northgate Street, including part of the former
Halberd pub (see below).
Egertons, the motor engineers and vehicle dealers have a long history
in
the town and have occupied several locations that we know of. It is noticeable
from the close-up (and presumably
before the rooftop fire
escape was installed) that a much earlier and larger lettered name
'Egertons.'
- the initial 'E' and final 'S' complete with full stop -
was painted onto a dark ground. A tribute
to
the signwriter's ability to work with large letterforms and
character-spacing
in
a lofty location. Just across the road is the Bethesda
Church.
Egertons
The Botwood & Egerton
Motor Garage,
Carr Street in 1908
To find the source of the Egertons company name, we
need to start with
William Botwood's carriage making works in Woodbridge Road (between
Kirby Street and Milton Street) established in 1870. In 1882 showrooms
were opened in St Matthews Street. Botwood died in 1896 and the
business was caried on by two sons, Samuel Ernest and William Thomas,
who a few years later were joined by a pioneering motorist, Reginald
Egerton. Until 1910 the motor car manufacturers Botwood & Egerton
ran alongside the carriage-making firm until Egerton left to set up his
own business in Northgate (Street) next to the Great White Horse Hotel
(see photographs at the foot of this page). The Botwood company became
Botwoods Ltd and in the 1920s the Botwood shares were acquired by
Mann, Egerton & Co. of Norwich who had by then expanded to the town
end of Woodbridge Road/Majors Corner. [Source: R. Malster: Wharncliffe companion to Ipswich in
the Reading List]
[UPDATE 19.1.2014: Tony
Wooderson sends this monochrome image of the Egertons sign.] Photo
courtesy Tony Wooderson /Crafted Images (UK)
1930s view
Below: part of a 1930s monochrome view of that Egertons wall - the roof
of
which
appears to have been extended
upwards since that time -
'EGERTONS.
THE GARAGE (pointing hand)'
One interesting feature is that the present cream
rectangle containing the 'BP' sign almost wholly covers the earlier
black
rectangle which drops down from the company name and bears the tiny, almost-vertical
'THE', the word 'GARAGE' and the pointing hand.
The upper part of the frontage of the Halberd onto Northgate Sreet was very different then. The early
drop-shadow
lettering painted onto the brickwork
to the left
is also of interest probably reading: 'THE HALBERD INN. [?] STABLES.
COBBOLD's
FINEST ALES & STOUTS.' ('The Smoke Room' is signed, stables behind
are
visible, as well as The Oddfellows
Hall with its wordy sign):
The Suffolk CAMRA site (see Links)
tells us that the Halberd (sometimes also The Halbert) was open by 1755
when the Ipswich Journal
described it as 'the Publick House adjoining to St Margaret's
Bar-Gates' i.e. the Northgate. The building is thought to date from the
16th century, so the hostelry may be much older. A halberd is a
combination of spear and axe with a shaft about two metres long.
Halberdiers were body guards to Tudor monarchs and they are still used
ceremonially by the Yeoman of the Guard. 2016 image
Above: the sign as seen from the yard of The Halberd Inn (as we
archaicly like to think of it.)
[UPDATE 16.11.2022: the
building bearing this sign turns out to have been a showroom of
Egertons, later Collins Carpets, Barnes
of Ipswich (after they moved from Upper Orwell Street), Yates Wine
Lodge (twice) and Wetherspoon's The Robert Ransome. The upper floors of
the building were used during the Second World War for the organisation
of the distribution of petrol, mainly to the RAF bases across Suffolk
but also in the allocation of petrol coupons to doctors and other
professionals. This went on for some years after the end of the war.
Trolleybuses like the one shown below on a snowy day on Tower Ramparts
ran in Ipswich from 1923 to 1963. At the date of the photograph,
perhaps early 1950s, the building lacks the pediment with clock which
was added when Yates took on the lease for the first time.] 1950s
image from Tower Ramparts
See our page on Public clocks in Ipswich for a 2018 view of the
front of the building ('Yates') and its clock. 1932
advertisement
Above: Egertons of Ipswich show off their long Crown Street Works in
the photograph (open until 11pm nightly). However, the main address
given is 'Northgate, Ipswich', with the Northgate Works (shown below,
3-5 Northgate Street) 'open all night – ALWAYS', which is a surprise...
The Halberd Inn, 15
Northgate Street
P.J. McGinty & Sons - an Irish theme pub now
occupies this old coaching
inn, so it is both surprising and refreshing that the original lettering:
'HALBERD
INN'
(much better name, being the weapon hybridising the
battle axe and the pikestaff) which stands in sans serif caps
projecting in relief against the whitewashed wall between first
and
second storeys facing the mouth of Old Foundry Road has been left. The
letterforms are similar to the 'TOLLY COBBOLD' relief lettering seen on
old pub buildings (for example, The Emperor).
Not
only
that, but the (apparently misleading) pub name has been nicely picked
out
in racing car green. See also Manning's
for
similar lettering.
2012
images
The building is thought to date from the 17th century,
though it was re-fronted around the turn of the 19th century and again
in 1923 by which date the stabling was still in demand by local traders
who wanted to keep their horses and wagons close to the town centre. It
is said that the cellar contains a bricked-up entrance to a maze of
tunnels. It was common to site inns near town gates and the Halberd was
just outside the North Gate - which gave
the street its name - on the
far side of Tower Ditches (the rampart running along Tower Ramparts and
the line of Old Foundry Road). The Suffolk CAMRA site provides a list
of many of the landlords of the inn (see Links,
also on that page see our Reading List - James, T.: 'Ipswich inns,
taverns and pubs').
One quirk of the lettering applied to the building by McGinty's is:
'Wines
. Groceries . Spirits'
seen above the window facing St
Margarets Plain. Is this an idle, 'olde worldy' usage, or could we
purchase butter, fire-lighters and sausages from the bar?
2016
image The Halberd Inn (standing on the site of the North Gate to the
town) and Bethesda lettering photographed
in 2016:
2016 image It is said that the remains of the old
North Gate to the medieval town were incorporated into the cellars of
the Halberd Inn; we've heard that these traces can still be seen there.
See also the Pubs
& Off-licences page and the Tolly Cobbold House & Brewery
pages.
[UPDATE February 2019:
The Halberd has finally reverted to the pub name emblazoned on its east
wall (from P.J. McGinty's). Photographs below show a particular taste
for goth black in the exterior decor, also more than one pub sign.] 2019 images
The chequered history of The Assembly
Rooms, 3-5 Northgate Street
The photograph below is taken from St Mary le Tower
churchyard – a very
important site for gatherings and meetings of Ipswich Portmen and
townspeople
for
centuries – of the rear of the building more recently occupied
variously by the Chicago
Rock
Cafe and other nightspots (fronting Northgate Street). The church
butresses and porch with
lamp are
visible to the left. The building has an attractive frontage and was
for
a time home to a girls school among other things and for many years the
stationers' shop Mortem. The vestiges of the lettering on this less
attractive elevation of the building:
'E G E R T O N S'
are visible in the
close-up,
below, in faint outline only in the centre. This is the site of
Reginald Egerton's first motor car works. A 1960s photograph of the
front
of the building, when it was Sketchley's, appears on our Introduction
page...
... but here's a close-up from 1890. Looking rather
more Classical than the building known to so many residents 100 years
later as Mortem stationers and furnishers (which business later shrunk
and moved to Buttermarket,
occupying the shop later to become 'Past Times'), this is the original
Assembly Rooms. At some point the frontage was altered and another
storey added. It was later
a School of Art, Ipswich
High School for girls (which moved to
Westerfield Road, then to Wolverstone Hall), Egertons motor works,
Sketchley's the dry
cleaner, Mortem's shop and the Chicago Rock Cafe and other night clubs.
The view below left is
from the jaws of Great Colman Street which was built in the 1820s on
the gardens of the Tudor residence, Harbottle House. (There is a blue plaque dedicated to John Harbottle,
wealthy merchant and rebellion leader, in Northgate Street.)
The old postcard of Oak House
(above right), also shows a vehicle
(1930s/40s, perhaps) and to the left what must be part of Egertons
motor works with, behind the street lamp, a petrol pump?
[UPDATE 10.1.2013: We just
noticed the ghostly shapes of letters (perhaps more than one set) high
up on the brickwork of this building (3-5 Northgate Street). What did
they spell? 2013 images
Given the choice from the list of occupants (above): Assembly Rooms, School of Art, Ipswich High School,
Egertons, Mortem, Chicago Rock Café etc. it is
still unclear – see below.]
[UPDATE 12.1.2013: John Norman,
Chair of The Ipswich Society, sent this fine image (possibly late
70s/early 80s) of the same view as the monochrome 1960s photograph and
it clearly shows the remnants of the Egertons tenure of this building:
'MOTOR WORKS'
which solves the mystery of the ghostly shapes still visible,
despite brick cleaning at a later date. Two memorable shop names from
this period can be seen: Mortem stationers and Everybody's Hobbies
toys, games and crafts to the right,
both long gone. The spire of St Mary Le
Tower
rises in the background.] Courtesy The Ipswich Society
See the 1778 map of the area on our Bethesda page.